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Jeremy Walker (00:11):
Welcome back to another episode of Reform, Reproduce, and Reconstruct. I’m your host, Jeremy Walker. And on this episode, we are going to be discussing, identifying bad doctrine, the dangers of pregnancy, and is recording others a good thing. This episode and more can be found on our website, cr101radio.com. I want to go ahead and get us started. There’s something that’s been bothering me today. I’ve been on social media, Twitter, Facebook, and people have been discussing the concept of the theonomy, meaning God’s law. The problem is most people have no idea what they’re talking about. And just so happens this podcast does discuss the concept of Christian reconstruction. And theonomy and reconstruction go hand in hand. Without God’s law, we have no standard by which to reconstruct things. What is it that we’re going to use to create with?
Jeremy Walker (01:18):
So, welcome back. So to begin with, I’d like to just jump on the bandwagon of the people that have been discussing theonomy real quick before we get into all of our stuff today. Theonomy, Gods law. Short, simple, and to the point, what is it all about and why is everybody upset about it? Real simple. Break it down. What does it mean? It means that people like the idea that God has rules for Christians in their personal life, but do not like the idea of God telling them actually what to do, or having a standard that society is supposed to live by. If you talk all day about how God loves people and how they’re supposed to love God by how they act, they’re okay with that. You discuss for one second that God’s law actually applies to the real world, people will lose their minds. Don’t believe it, go on Twitter, go on Facebook, search the term theonomy. And losing their minds is a good description. People have no idea what they’re talking about. Listen to a couple podcasts recently. They’re crazy, just crazy.
Jeremy Walker (02:31):
No idea what they’re talking about, just ranting and raving. What it really comes down to is this, nobody wants God to tell them how to live, period. And if people are honest, it’s not that they think that God’s law has been done away with, it’s that they hate God’s law and would never want to live underneath it. They despise the judgments of God. That’s what it comes down to. So if you want to understand theonomy, it just means that God’s law has application till today. Like if today, President Trump asked me myself, what does God want us to do in our country? Instantly, we’re talking about theonomy, because we’re not talking about people deciding. We’re saying, what does God want America to look like? And automatically if that’s what your concept is, you are a theonomist. People have been saying that all over social media and people get upset. It’s just true.
Jeremy Walker (03:28):
Now, a lot of people have no idea what they’re talking about, hasn’t been fleshed out by most people, but we’re going to get into a little bit of that, about reconstruction, all the rest, but I just thought I want to touch on that. Is that that right there is the biggest problem. And people that think that… I listened to a podcast this week, that for some reason, theonomy has to do with the concept that you’re saved by law is ridiculous. No one says that. Well, there are some people I suppose, but that is not the concept of what the Bible teaches. But God’s law, what God wants, the will of God, is just not private and personal. Now people would say, well, this is a new concept created by a bunch of weirdo guys in the ’80s, Bahnsen, Rushdoony, Gary North, and other people, and it’s not. It was not created by them. Because it’s not just that Israel had a set of laws.
Jeremy Walker (04:23):
Does anybody read the book of Jonah? No. Okay. Let me remind you. Book of Jonah, Jonah is sent to Nineveh, an evil pagan city and told to repent. Repent of what? Wait for it. Repent of breaking God’s law. Then, of course, you had all the other nations, Canaanites, the Hittites, the Hivites, all throughout the book of Joshua. Why were they being wiped out? Because they were breaking God’s commandments, God’s law. Why did God flood the earth? Because the world was full of wickedness which is breaking of God’s law. See, this concept of theonomy is not based on this ancient Israel, where everybody was just supposed to just, this law is for them and for nobody else. Not true. Not true at all. All throughout the Bible, the world is convicted of sin, which is the breaking of the law, and then judge based on that.
Jeremy Walker (05:18):
Sodom and Gomorrah. I wonder why two angels went down there and saved Lot before a fiery bomb went off in Sodom and Gomorrah. Maybe because Sodom and Gomorrah, although not Israel, was responsible for obeying God. Could it be? So anyways, I don’t want to spend too much time on this. I think I spent a little over five minutes. It’s just enough to just touch on the concept. It’s ridiculous. People are fighting over nothing. What it really comes down to is this. They do not want God telling them what to do and they want to be able to say, how to live and how to operate the world. If you understand that, you understand the argument that’s going on in social media. If you don’t, you’re going to get caught in the rat’s nest and everything else and not really understand what’s going on. But that’s what it comes down to.
Jeremy Walker (06:07):
So let’s jump into bad doctrine. So first of all, identifying bad doctrine. Well, there’s a couple reasons why bad doctrine is a problem, and this of course, is reform, reproduce, reconstruct. The first section’s about reforming, but what we should learn, what we should teach, what we should understand. Doctrine just means teaching, that means what you should understand, what is true, what you should teach.
Jeremy Walker (06:33):
If you’re going to teach your kids, you have to understand that bad doctrine is something to be avoided. Bad doctrine comes from, number one, false teachers, they want to exploit the simple minded people. The Bible is very clear on that. We’ll get to that in a minute. Another reason why bad doctrine comes in is because people ask for it. They literally want to be told lies instead of the truth. That’s another reason why bad doctrine comes into the churches and the communities. It’s purposely let in the back door, or rather the front door. And then of course, bad doctrine comes from correct teachings, but they’re separated from actions, in other words, as James would say, your faith without your works. In other words, you can have all the facts, you can have all the… I say this, I hold to this doctrine, and I hold to that doctrine, but you don’t have the works that go with it. So when you separate it, that is a bad doctrine. You can have all the right catechisms, but you don’t have any actions that back it up, or don’t support that idea. And that, of course, is a giant way that bad doctrine enters in because it’s probably the worst one.
Jeremy Walker (07:44):
Anyways, jumping into this. I want to go through some verses just to back up what I’m saying about identifying bad doctrine and how it comes into the church, and as parents, we should avoid these things and teach our children how to avoid them and know what’s going on here. But here we go. Hebrews 13:9 says, “Be not carried away with diverse and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace, not with meats, which have not profited them that have occupied therein.” So basically, we’re told out right in Hebrews to watch out for diverse and strange doctrines that are going to be coming in. It doesn’t get specific because there’s no limit to weird stuff that’s going to be brought into the church and be sold as Christianity. Lots of different ways for that.
Jeremy Walker (08:38):
Another chapter and verse is 2 Timothy 4:1-4, “I charged thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom. Preach the word, be instant in season out of season, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but after their own lust, they shall heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears. And they shall turn away their ears from the truth and shall be turned into fables.” This just backs up the first two concepts. One is that diverse doctrines are going to be coming in, and two, that people are going to want them. They’re not going to want to hear the truth. This is the epitome of 99.9% of the churches in America today. They call themselves Christians, but they purposefully allow bad doctrines to not only come in, but they want them to. They can’t stand the actual truth.
Jeremy Walker (09:42):
Now as a child, meaning I was 17, I call it a child because now almost 40. But when I was younger, and I first converted, I had this silly idea, a silly impression that people actually care what the Bible said. They don’t. I had this silly idea that people could all get along if they just read the Bible. They can’t, because they don’t want to hear what’s there. It can be very plain, it can be very clear, but they just don’t want to hear it. So bad doctrine primarily comes in, because people want it. Not because there’s some insidious evil out there. That’s just trying to infiltrate the church. These horrible, terrible false teachers, everybody has to be on the watch out. No, no. It’s the congregations that you have to watch out for. These are the people calling these wolves in sheep’s clothing and saying please come tell us sweet things to tickle our ears, to itch ears. Do not tell us the truth. Feed us fables.
Jeremy Walker (10:45):
Going on to another verse is Romans 16:17-18, “Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which you’ve learned and avoid them for they are such that serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly. And by good words and fair speeches, deceive the hearts of the simple.” So this goes back to the original point that there are people who come in and they exploit simple minded people, simple minded folks. They have great, fair speeches and good words. They’re good speakers. They’re very convincing. They even use the scripture after all, Satan uses scripture too, but these people come in and they want to make money off of you. They want to utilize you. And so they bring in false doctrines and they make great speeches. And it also cause divisions.
Jeremy Walker (11:45):
Now, if you haven’t noticed, you can’t go on social media and discuss anything without little divisions here and little divisions there. But have you noticed, if you actually go back to the original catechisms, the original counsels of the early churches. What were they talking about? Usually not all this small little stuff [inaudible 00:12:07] divide over. We were talking about theonomy earlier. People will fight endlessly about that, endlessly about stupid things that they don’t even understand. Not even theonomy because actually it’s kind of important. But small, minor things, constantly. Baptism, communion, smaller things, which not only are they important, but our way is the perfect way. I’m a Lutheran, I’m an Anglican. I’m a Baptist, I’m a Presbyterian. We get in different forms of government. We get in different forms of… Pretty much everything. So it’s you have to be careful, because these types of people will bring in divisions that are contrary to sound doctrine.
Jeremy Walker (12:51):
In other words, we have to know where we should divide from people and when we shouldn’t divide from people. What is it that should separate Christians and what is not separating us from Christians. Another part here, 2 Peter 2:1-3: “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring unto them themselves with destruction. And many shall follow their precarious ways, by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they be with feigned words make merchandise of you, whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.”
Jeremy Walker (13:43):
Well, these verses are pretty straightforward. False teachers bring in damnable heresies, for one reason, to make merchandise of you. Well, look at all the famous preachers that are out there, people that are getting donations from people. Been happening for years and years and years. If you’re not aware of false doctrines, if you’re not careful, you will fall into those types of traps. And I think one last one here before we pass this up, because this concept is just making the warnings about how to identify bad doctrine. How do you identify it? Well, you have to understand the Bible. Read it. Ask for chapter and verse, ask for context. But you don’t just accept what people tell you. Don’t accept it because they’re a member of a big church, or because of a great following. Don’t accept teachings because somebody seems smarter than you and accept the fact that people are smarter than you, and that they have great speeches and they can be very persuasive. But that’s not what’s true. If your standard is the Bible, then none of this stuff is going to work because they’re not going to be able to fool you. And you should pray that God would help you see through false teaching.
Jeremy Walker (15:00):
But the biggest one that I’ve noticed that has helped me from time I was 17 now to 39, was simply sitting down and asking people, where is that in the Bible? Let’s look at it. And 99% of the time, the people will go away, because they don’t want to discuss it. They don’t want discuss the subject. At any point in time, it’s like the magician, when he does the trick, it seems magical. But the moment that you start to investigate it, if you said, let’s slow that down and let me stand behind you instead of in front of you and let’s see the trick again, and in this time, let’s have four people there, and this time, let’s have no smoke, and this time… in other words, you get to see how the magician does his trick. And that’s the same way that happens to people who are spouting bad doctrines. When they have close examination, they’re foolery, that term foolery is discoverable. And so if you want to want to be a true reformer, want to have a true good doctrine, then you have to have a standard and the standard is the Bible. And the people who are giving you good doctrine will not hesitate to sit down and talk with you.
Jeremy Walker (16:12):
They will not hesitate to continue to show you what it is they’re teaching, where it’s backed up, and then if they’re honest, and you’re honest, and people are, of course, wanting to actually learn, they will spend the time to talk to you. But the problem I’ve had with people that are spouting bad doctrines all throughout my lifetime, is that they all walk away soon as any type of fine tuning, any type of search is done, to look into scriptures and especially any opposition if you say, well, but what about this, and you bring in scripture. The number one thing about people who hate doctrine, or at least good sound doctrine is that they think that they will… rather they won’t look at other scriptures that disagree with them. Satan did the same thing. Satan would bring in certain scriptures to say that, to spin it his way, but Jesus answered Scripture with Scripture to give a finer, rounder, true definition of what good doctrine was. In other words, I’ve always said like this, nobody should be afraid of Bible verses. If you’re afraid of Bible verses, it means that you have bad doctrine.
Jeremy Walker (17:19):
So anyways, hopefully that’ll help you understand of how to identify bad doctrines, to know that is coming in there. And if you’re not aware of these things, then you’re not paying attention, but you need to pay attention. People are wanting to come in not only that, you have to mark yourself to make sure you want to know the truth. God gives a warning here that people are not going to want to hear the truth. So is that you? Do you really want to know the truth? Do you actually want to have good doctrine? Or do you just want people to tickle your ears? Knowing the difference between that is the difference between blessing and cursing.
Jeremy Walker (17:56):
Moving on to the next concept here we have on reform, reproduce, reconstruct is the concept of reproduction. So I just decided to touch on the subject of pregnancy. We recently had a article of a man whose wife had died while delivering their child. He was suing a hospital for this. Well, the problem is, is that people have a wrong view of pregnancy. Some people, if you have evolutionary view, would actually say that the human body can do what it can do by sheer accident. And obviously, if it can happen by sheer accident, then therefore there is no real purpose behind it and it can actually become a dangerous concept. In other words, pregnancy can become a life threatening problem for women, because it’s not normal. It’s just something that the evolutionary processes has taking its toll and therefore kind of just happens and it’s actually dangerous for women.
Jeremy Walker (18:58):
Well, as Christians we understand this is not the case. God of course created the female body as is and the male body as it is, reproduction as it is, and it operates the way it’s supposed to. In other words, pregnancy is a good thing. Now, there is a problem because pregnancy is not as it was intended to be originally and that’s from the fall, is that when the main reasons behind that is it’s going to be painful. And in pain, women would bring forth children. It doesn’t just mean childbirth itself, because obviously childbirth is a difficult process and obviously it is painful. That’s why what most women at least a lot of women, like the concept of discussing the epidural where they stick a giant needle in your back and just numb the entire bottom half of your body, so you can’t actually feel pain. And many people do that, but they never really discuss the dangers of epidural. Epidurals can actually paralyze people. If you haven’t thought about that, if you don’t know that, you should discuss that and talk about that with a doctor, because epidural needles can actually paralyze people, can be very dangerous things, and it’s not something that should be done lightly.
Jeremy Walker (20:11):
I do think it’s interesting that technology is there should there need to be… a problem arised kind of cesarean section, I think it’s very interesting technology, but it doesn’t mean that it’s something that we should do. It means that it’s something there for the worst case scenarios to try to save people or to help people. So you can’t necessarily be against the technology itself, but maybe its application and its usage. Then the main problem with people nowadays is that they scare women, and that somehow pregnancy is not normal, and it’s not natural, and it’s not something that they can their bodies can handle. I’m not sure if you’ve heard these, but I work in child care. My wife and I have been doing it for 30 years. We have 11 children ourselves. So I’ve seen personally, the birth process 11 times from beginning to end and I have to admit, the first time I saw it, I was not prepared for it remotely, and anybody as a man who thinks that they are, they’re not, but 11 times now, I can still say that I’m still not necessarily immune to it. It’s still always all inspiring and scary. Mostly because a man can’t do much to help his wife. He’s just kind of there holding her hand when she goes through that process and gets the people there that need to be there.
Jeremy Walker (21:27):
But I can say this, is that pregnancy in of itself is not dangerous. It is meant to be a natural process, even though it’s in a fallen state, and there are problems now, meaning that there is pain during childbirth. But of course, there’s also pain before you get up to it. Uncomfortability, all kinds of other problems. A lot of health issues can arise potentially with women. Lots of different things, but the interesting aspect is that they scare people nowadays. Modern medicine believes it wants to play God. And this is where the dangers come in. This is where the husband and wife or the wife died during a C-section operation comes in because she didn’t have to have one. In fact, during my research here for this little episode here, apparently over 30%, 30 plus percent of women have cesarean sections versus a normal, traditional vaginal birth whenever they deliver their child. And these aren’t women who’ve had complications. These aren’t worst case scenario people. These are just they decided to have one.
Jeremy Walker (22:32):
Like I said, I think the technology itself is interesting and should the need arise where child and mother needs to be life saved, should it arise, then great, I’m glad we have this technology, but it’s being used by 30 plus percent of people and there’s doctors who will promote the idea based on faulty so called concepts of science and technology based like HRD, see how much fluid is in the womb, to see if the woman has enough fluid in there for the baby, or say, well, your fluids are low, so we might have to induce labor, or say, well, the baby is too big here, you’re weighing too big, the baby is certain amount of pounds and your cervix is only a certain size and I don’t think you can birth the size of a child. So they scare the crap out of women for saying this. They will deliver artificial due dates for women, where suppose say it’s 40 something weeks, roughly 40 weeks for a baby, and then of course, whenever you come in, they set the due date and say, well, that’s your due date. So if you go over that due date, or before that due date, the whole medical field freaks out and they want to just cut women open and induce labor and all these types of things.
Jeremy Walker (23:41):
Not all women are going to have the same gestational period. It’s not going to happen. Not all children cook at the same amount of time, you could say, but the body is not going to keep the baby in there. It’s going to come out. Been happening for thousands of years. All of a sudden medical history figures that has been done wrong. No, there’s something wrong here and it’s not the woman’s body. Also, like I said, 30 plus percent of women having cesarean sections, what’s up with that? Well, mostly comes down to, a lot of it, people wanting to play God. They want to say, well, I want to choose my child’s birthday. I want to choose the time that’s good for me.
Jeremy Walker (24:24):
This fits into my category, I want to have it on the weekend. I want to have it here. I want to have it there. And so the people themselves, the parents are asking to have major surgery done on their bodies and slice their bodies open, which is completely not natural, just because they choose to do so. Then of course, there’s doctors who will use all these feigned ideas or Saito ideas in order to get people to decide that they will induce. Now induction, being induced does not mean C-section, of course. C-section is where they slice you open and take the baby out like that. Inducing can just be where they pumped a body full of pitocin and other types of drugs in order to get the woman to deliver the baby when they want to. So in other words, they artificially do it, they chemically try to induce delivery.
Jeremy Walker (25:14):
Now the problem is, is when they try to do this and it’s routine, they actually damage the body because the baby’s not ready to be delivered. So why do they have to have epidurals? Well, if you pop your body full of artificial chemicals, which are going to induce labor, that’s not natural, it’s going to continue to restrict the baby, the womb, the cervix, all these things artificially. So basically, you’re torturing yourself by doing this. And of course, you need something to stop the pain, which is the epidural which has to then numb your entire body. But then of course, you can’t feel anything. And many times this induction doesn’t even work, and so they’d haven’t even really researched fully what this type of induction does to the female body. But we do know that there’s so many medical problems nowadays, and they attribute it to just pregnancy. But it’s not. It’s due to either I would call it medical malpractice, but it was a medical intervention.
Jeremy Walker (26:13):
But this guy, this poor father, his wife went in and it wasn’t his first child, I think was like third child, went in for a C-section, planned C-section kind of like all the rest, and if you haven’t heard about C-sections, once you have your first one, the doctors pretty much want you to do the rest because the womb, when the body is no longer in the same state that it would be normally where you could just deliver baby after baby is norm without some kind of weird medical problem. The body is made to actually have multiple children. But this father had his wife and him chose to have cesarean section. In the hospital, she was complaining of pain after the delivery and after the C-section. She’d been stitched up and cleaned up and all the rest, but they wouldn’t listen to her. The hospital said that they’re busy and didn’t really take it seriously. After all, it’s just these weak women who don’t understand their bodies and they didn’t really listen to her. Apparently she was hemorrhaging inside because something had got nicked or something didn’t get stitched properly, and she literally died of internal bleeding there while complaining asking for help, and her husband, of course, was begging for help and didn’t get it in due time. So obviously, they’re suing for this stuff.
Jeremy Walker (27:25):
But the question must be asked is, was it necessary? Was any of this necessary? Is it anytime normally necessary? Is pregnancy really a danger as a norm to a woman and to the child? And the answer is, is no. God did not design the body, so the woman’s body could not handle it. And so in a lot of ways, the medical field just needs to get out of the way. People need to trust that God has created the world the way he wants it to be including how our bodies function. Now, I can say I’m a man, but I have a wife who’s had 11 children and has delivered every one of them at home or at a birth center. Never had a medical doctor, never been in a hospital, thankfully, and I can honestly say that all the deliveries, I could have actually done myself, if of course, I had the guts to do it, which I really don’t. But I have seen it done 11 times, and there’s nothing fancy to be done about it. Now these people of course, like midwives or whatnot, just didn’t often enough and long enough that they’re good at it.
Jeremy Walker (28:39):
One of them my wife delivered with her sister was there. Thankfully, I didn’t have to catch. I would if I had to, but thankfully, I was not put in that position. But I have seen it many times and there is nothing that requires a medical doctor, nothing requires surgery, nothing that requires all the different things that they’re talking about here. They act like it’s some kind surgical procedure. It’s not. It’s a natural procedure. And in general, it’s very, very safe for women. Now, obviously, there are some dangers in place. As I said before, after the fall, there has been things that have changed. So yes, there are some real dangers and nobody should just gloss over those things and you should do what is necessary to protect child and mother.
Jeremy Walker (29:22):
But to act like we are supposed to play God, that you can somehow see inside the woman how much fluid is in there, telling people that our children are too big, choosing your due date, so you can just be induced and forcing your by literally torturing your body to deliver a baby that’s not actually due, and purposely decided to have your body sliced open, so that almost 50%, climbing to 50% of people are having these procedures deliberately, rather than just having children the way that God planned, which is just a normal vaginal birth, is insane. Something has to stop. And like I said, I’m not claiming to be a absolute expert on this field, but 11 children and having seen it does give me a lot of experience. And my experience, not just with that, but with other people as well, since it is a natural process, but problems can arise, and hospitals can be necessary and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Jeremy Walker (30:22):
But in general, there are no dangers in pregnancy as a whole if we just allow the bodies to do, as God says, and take natural, normal precautions as you would to preserve the life of people, because even go back in the Bible, you had the mother of Joseph and Benjamin, who also died in childbirth. So no one is saying that these things can’t happen. There isn’t any dangers at all in pregnancies. There can be. But in general, it is a very normal and safe process that God has designed. And for the most part, if we just got our medical doctors out of the way and ourselves trusting God to allow things to transpire as they should, without induction and medical surgeries, women will be much safer. And the statistics would change greatly if we trusted God’s process more than we do now.
Jeremy Walker (31:17):
So anyways, hopefully that gives you something to chomp on or think about as far as pregnancies if you’re haven’t had any children yet, or thinking about the process itself, take it from a person who has been through the process 11 times. God does know what He’s doing, and He has created the body to function as it should. Moving on to the last topic here, and I won’t spend a great deal of time on it because I don’t think it requires a great deal of time. We’ve all seen videos on the internet on YouTube where Christians, professing Christians, have strapped cameras to their body and then gone out to do various things, it can be to boycott like at abortion mill, they can go out to rallies and protest, all kinds of different things. But for whatever reason, they are videotaping themselves. We have to ask ourselves, is recording other people a good idea? Well, first of all, I think people miss to understand the concept of the golden rule. Do unto others as you’d have them do unto you. If you look at most of the videos, these people are very upset. Very angry that they’re on videotape. If you really wanted to reach people, if your goal is to evangelize, well, you’re doing the opposite of evangelizing.
Jeremy Walker (32:36):
Most of the things that happen especially when you’re evangelizing have a personal nature. And nobody wants to be recorded when they’re having a personal moment. Otherwise, people take these videos not just to evangelize or so called, but to film people acting badly and show them like they would on America’s Funniest Home Videos. Because they want people to act badly and say, well, Look at these non Christians, look how they act, they’re so terrible. Well, that’s true. But are you contributing to that? Are you trying to stop that? Are you making the situation worse? Some people think that video cameras can help them because it shows their side of things. Well, I’ve seen videos and lots of all over YouTube, where they can have somebody purposely whacking them in the face and hitting them and all the rest and they’ll take the video to the police officer, and the police officer will say, well, there’s nothing we can do about it. And eventually, they might be able to get a judgement, but it’s going to take a lot of time and energy to do so.
Jeremy Walker (33:34):
But is that your goal? Is your goal to prosecute people? Is that the Christians’ goal? To push somebody to anger so they do something foolish, like attack you or do something to you that they shouldn’t do, and then when you catch them on tape, then you can take that to prosecute them? Have you ever thought about it like that? Is that your goal to catch people so you can have evidence against them? That is contrary to the concept of being an evangelical person, is going out there to help people. You don’t want people to act badly. Your goal is to try to convince people to stop acting badly. At least that should be the goal. You don’t want people to put a camera in your face whenever they’re talking to you. Me personally, I don’t want people to film me. I don’t like the idea. Why? I just don’t want you to film me. I don’t want to walk around. I don’t want somebody to poke something in my face, and then try to talk to me.
Jeremy Walker (34:25):
So if you just followed basic golden rule here, nine times out of 10, you won’t be recording anybody, because it’s not the right time, not the right situation. You wouldn’t want somebody to do it to you. But another big aspect of this is whenever we’re doing these things, you have to ask yourself also a question. Why am I doing this? Am I going there because I’m going to change somebody’s mind.? Am I actually being evangelical? If I’m going to places, because a lot of times you know you’re going to a hostile environment, which is the number one reason why you’re wearing a camera in the first place. And whenever you go into these places and you’re in a hostile environment, you know what’s going to happen. And in Matthew 7, I think is very important, which we don’t attribute these passages to stuff like this. It says, Matthew 7:6, “Give not that which is wholly unto the dogs, neither cast your pearls before swine as they trample them under your feet, and turn again and rend you.” And later on in verse 12, same chapter, Matthew 7 says, “Therefore all things whatsoever you would do that men should do unto you, do you even so to them for this as the law and the prophets.”
Jeremy Walker (35:39):
See, I think that these things when you tie them all together, tells us that going around and filming people from the start, has the wrong connotation. You’re not out there with a good intention as a norm. On top of that, I’ve seen people with video cameras who stand outside abortion clinics, and they’re picketing and they purposely got their little GoPros out there, so they can catch every little minute, every little sentence so they can share with their friends. And I saw somebody get hit by a truck one time. And there was a cop on site, and they actually did get hit by a car. And then of course, they brought the film to the police officer and the police officer says, well, I don’t see what you’re seeing. So these things are not guarantees that you’re going to have what you call justice. But here’s a better thing. Maybe the police officers have something that Christians need to listen to, a little common sense that we haven’t figured out because we’re all self righteous in our motivations or why we’re there, therefore, the ends justify the means kind of a concept. Maybe don’t stand in traffic and you won’t get hit by a car and then the abortion meal, maybe don’t go on purpose into a hostile environment with a camera and maybe you won’t get mobbed and hit in the face. Maybe that might help.
Jeremy Walker (36:54):
In other words, Christians act the victim all the time and are seeking on purpose to get things on film, not because they’re trying to be evangelical, because they want to show off somebody doing something badly. They want a little bit of star and fame and they want to be able to show people that I went out to the abortion mill. I was out there and I talked to people and I talked him down and I argued with him. One little guy was a teenager, I saw a video of him, went out to some elementary school, and I run a school, and he stood out in the corner and as parents were leaving, he was passing out anti-abortion material, which, why would you want no Christian to pass out abortion material? If you’re against that, then you must be pro abortion.
Jeremy Walker (37:36):
No, it’s that you’re going to a school where people are just picking up their kids and leaving, and you’re bombarding them with materials and forcing them, handing to them. And then of course, you have the principal come out who’s a non Christian, and this is a government school, and he’s asking you to leave and you’re saying, well, I have the right to be here. I’m not going to leave, and it causes a problem. In other words, he knows he’s being filmed now, you’re refusing to do what is basic common courtesy. I run a Christian school. If I had somebody coming onto my property or standing right outside my property and handing out material that I found offensive, if it’s anti-christian material, otherwise, I would be upset, I would be angry. I would not want somebody to do that to me. And therefore, I would not go to these local public schools and do this to them.
Jeremy Walker (38:25):
And if authority figure like an assistant principal came out and asked you to leave the property and to please stop, perhaps, you should do to them what you want them to do to you and you should just leave. Instead, guess what he did? Well, he eventually ticked off this assistant principal enough, and kept talking to him and goading him, and finally got him to pop. Apparently, the guy was a professing homosexual, and then he lost his temper and he yelled and shouted out this young kid. And guess what happened? The young kid used to tape and his parents did to get the guy fired.
Jeremy Walker (38:59):
Is that our goal? Is our goal to go around and find non Christians, get them on film and get them to act badly, and then when they do, when they pop and they just can’t handle anymore because we go to them, we did it on purpose, then we’re going to show off the film as if we’re the victims, and then all of a sudden, we’re going to get these people fired from their jobs, and we’re going to get them into trouble, because after all, we feel justified because you support the abortion of little babies. Well, that’s not it. But you just created a circumstance in a situation where you used what you say is a good thing as a weapon, used your videotape as a weapon to hurt somebody. You didn’t have to argue with the guy. You didn’t have to take the film and show it off to other people. You don’t have to go after his job. But you did it on purpose. You used as a weapon to destroy the man and destroy his career. You think just because he’s a non Christian and it’s okay, that his job doesn’t matter. That you can just attack people because after all, they said something terrible to you or they wouldn’t let you pass out anti abortion materials. How about, you shouldn’t have done that in the first place and you created the circumstance and this guy lost his job.
Jeremy Walker (40:05):
See, we’re supposed to have compassion for all people, and that includes non Christians as well. You created the environment, you use your tape as a weapon, not as evangelical tool, not as a protection tool to do that. So I think we should reconsider why it is to record others. I don’t think if we sit down and honestly look at it that we’re recording because we think it’s beneficial to us. I think that first of all, it’s self righteous, people are doing it so other people can see what they’re doing. Number two, I think they’re using it so they can show off people acting badly. And third, I think they do it because you want to use it as a weapon to hurt people. Once they act badly, they want to hurt them because they think that is a good thing to do. All the above are wrong. And I think that they shouldn’t be doing any of those things. You can evangelize, you can go and do certain things without recording yourself. You don’t have to have recording or to have testimony. You have two eyewitnesses, that’s better than a recording in quarter law, it’s all you need. You don’t have to have a recording to back you up. You just have to have testimonies. That’s it.
Jeremy Walker (41:10):
As far as if you really wanted to talk to somebody, turn off the film and just talk to them. If you actually are interested in converting people and changing their minds, don’t film them, don’t share stuff. They know you’re going to film them, they know when you’re sharing stuff, they know you’re just doing it to get a rise out of them, so you can show them on the internet and show them basically acting badly, and they know it. And therefore you’re not going to get the chance to evangelize as you were saying you’re going to do. And then of course, if you’re using as a weapon to destroy somebody on purpose, which the vast majority are, we should really reconsider these concepts about using video cameras and what their real purpose is for. And what would you want somebody to do to you? And is that the purpose for what you’re doing it?
Jeremy Walker (41:56):
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